tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-735806083613637800.post6877197485179500795..comments2018-08-13T05:32:38.490-07:00Comments on Reflections on Infinite Space: Verse 1.10: energy transformationKen McLeodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15876529036315470763noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-735806083613637800.post-50293979694821812792014-09-13T09:06:52.272-07:002014-09-13T09:06:52.272-07:00Thank you again for verse and commentary...
I und...Thank you again for verse and commentary...<br /><br />I understand that one approach (the first line of verse) explains how the seeds or roots of certain qualities like compassion are in relationship with awakening, are interdependent. The word genesis does get to it, like origin or root.<br /><br />Where the second line of verse tells me "this is that". There is no origin or actual beginning to wakefulness, just the pure moment of awakening itself. It is interesting that in the "result path" there are still the many efforts to create awakening through something, as you say "still working at a remove".<br />Is awakening really just recognizing something that is already there? And, if it already exists, there's no getting there, right?<br />Diane de Fordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10561535859980333686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-735806083613637800.post-89284901763617634602014-09-11T18:48:51.248-07:002014-09-11T18:48:51.248-07:00What if it is less metaphoric, like:
When you let...What if it is less metaphoric, like:<br /><br />When you let go of the effort and work of self-fulfillment,<br />You experience pure being: awareness becomes the path.<br />Then the practices that breathe life and vitality into mind, opening and energy seem so complex.<br />How tiring, you followers of supreme philosophy!Kazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110068719590553923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-735806083613637800.post-28924193042721916132014-09-08T15:16:33.472-07:002014-09-08T15:16:33.472-07:00An acorn is the genesis of an oak tree. Water, sun...An acorn is the genesis of an oak tree. Water, sun, nutrients are contributing factors. The distinction between genesis and contributing factors leads to a better understanding of situations than reducing both to causes.<br /><br />The experiences generated by energy practices are not awakening, but similar to awakening. The technical term in Tibetan is "example timeless awareness" dpe'i ye shes. <br /><br />Pointing out instruction aims to precipitate an experience of actual timeless awareness -- don gyi ye she. That experience is then used as a basis for practice.<br /><br />There is wide variation in bliss, clarity and non-thought experiences, from the very negative to the very sublime. Yes, experiences do come and go, but there are also shifts here, and they change how the whole system functions.<br /><br />Hope this clarifies a little.Ken McLeodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15876529036315470763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-735806083613637800.post-43657702595723422902014-09-08T12:05:23.468-07:002014-09-08T12:05:23.468-07:00As always I appreciate the email and the opportuni...As always I appreciate the email and the opportunity to post feedback.<br />As far as the translation issue goes.<br />It seems that the idea of building blocks is what is trying to be expressed. <br />An acorn is not the only causal agent of an oak tree. Without it one cannot come to be, but the same is true of water, sun, nutrients etc. <br /><br />I do have a question about the implications of "Similitude"<br />How is the result of working with energy a similitude to experiencing the awakened state?<br />Does that mean that the experience of having the nature of mind pointed out to you, is also a similitude?<br /><br />As I understand it the experiences of bliss, clarity and nonself are bi-products of practices like pranayama and the experience of bliss etc. because they are temporary should be treated as just another passing experience but even those experiences nature is empty and clear.<br /><br />Am I misinformed?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04600181123118638865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-735806083613637800.post-64323347528159494472014-09-08T12:02:54.123-07:002014-09-08T12:02:54.123-07:00As always I appreciate the email and the opportuni...As always I appreciate the email and the opportunity to post feedback.<br />As far as the translation issue goes.<br />It seems that the idea of building blocks is what is trying to be expressed. <br />An acorn is not the only causal agent of an oak tree. Without it one cannot come to be but the same is true of water, sun, nutrients etc. <br /><br />I do have a question about the implications of "Similitude"<br />How is the result of working with energy a similitude to experiencing the awakened state?<br />Does that mean that the experience of having the nature of mind pointed out to you is also a similitude?<br /><br />As I understand it the experiences of bliss, clarity and nonself are bi-products of practices like pranayama and the experience of bliss etc because they are temporary should be treated as just another passing experience but even those experiences nature is empty and clear.<br /><br />Am I misinformed?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04600181123118638865noreply@blogger.com